Like a Europa

"CaptDale - is secretly British" (captdale) 12/16/2016 at 18:02 • Filed to: lotus, elite estate, 1974

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But not as UGLY! His description is wrong. This is an !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! . Type 73 since the type 83 was later in the production and the owner says this is a 1974. Interesting vehicles. I’d own one.

What it should look like

S65 > CaptDale - is secretly British 12/16/2016 at 18:05

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OH COME ON PLEASE

facw > CaptDale - is secretly British 12/16/2016 at 18:08

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Man, I don’t have the time, space, or money for a project, but I want it!

AuthiCooper1300 > CaptDale - is secretly British 12/16/2016 at 18:14

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You are right (although I wouldn’t call the Europa ugly either).

But... “Estate”? I have never heard or read them being called anything by “Elite”. There was also a short-roof/fastback version called “Eclat”, later Excel.

But yes, such an attractive car...

AuthiCooper1300 > facw 12/16/2016 at 18:16

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Probably nobody ever has the right amount of time, space or money for an old Lotus in need of TLC.

Towards the end it must be a very rewarding accomplishment though.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > CaptDale - is secretly British 12/16/2016 at 18:21

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“It’s almost exactly like a fiberglass Gremlin with a partial Ferrari body kit” - uncharitable comparison guy

bwp240 > CaptDale - is secretly British 12/16/2016 at 18:23

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When you see the thumbnail on the Oppo FP as you scroll quickly, it looks like it is on fire.

LongbowMkII > AuthiCooper1300 12/16/2016 at 18:26

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Shhh

LongbowMkII > CaptDale - is secretly British 12/16/2016 at 18:28

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That’s like saying a 928 is like a 911.

CaptDale - is secretly British > LongbowMkII 12/16/2016 at 18:32

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Ehhh, but is it?

CaptDale - is secretly British > bwp240 12/16/2016 at 18:32

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ha ha ha. I guess it does because of the tree shadow.

CaptDale - is secretly British > AuthiCooper1300 12/16/2016 at 18:35

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I guess I was going with the type 14 being a coupe, I guess it is more of a shooting brake.

LongbowMkII > CaptDale - is secretly British 12/16/2016 at 18:35

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Considering one has a Ford/lotus engine in the front and one has a Renault engine in the middle, yeah.

CaptDale - is secretly British > S65 12/16/2016 at 18:37

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What?

S65 > CaptDale - is secretly British 12/16/2016 at 18:40

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it’s only $2500

CaptDale - is secretly British > LongbowMkII 12/16/2016 at 18:44

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Well.... Ok then

CaptDale - is secretly British > S65 12/16/2016 at 18:45

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Yeah... $2500 I don’t have, nor a garage do I have, and no money to fix it.

AuthiCooper1300 > CaptDale - is secretly British 12/16/2016 at 18:54

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Indeed, shooting brake is probably a more fitting definition. But I wouldn’t find it that shocking an Elite being called an estate (or station wagon); it’s just that the capital E made it look as if it were the official name for the model.

Obviously 2,500 US$ is just a frightfully small amount of the total final expenditure needed (not including therapy and professional counselling) before you more-or-less get a car that is actually going to last a while.

I wonder how expensive the replacement chassis is?

Good thing that car is far, far away from me.

CaptDale - is secretly British > AuthiCooper1300 12/16/2016 at 18:56

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California means the likelihood of no to very little rust is very high.

AuthiCooper1300 > LongbowMkII 12/16/2016 at 19:00

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I don’t think that engine in particular has much to do with Ford (unlike the one in, say, the Lotus Cortina or the Elan).

An apt comparison nonetheless, sir.

AuthiCooper1300 > CaptDale - is secretly British 12/16/2016 at 19:08

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Hopefully. Those things were built down to a price.

Same as Enzo, Arthur Colin Bruce only really cared about his GP cars. The rest was simply a means to an end (and bar Clark, in the case of his GP cars that also probably included the drivers)

CaptDale - is secretly British > AuthiCooper1300 12/16/2016 at 19:11

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Fair point

LongbowMkII > AuthiCooper1300 12/16/2016 at 20:12

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The 904 is a heavily worked over Kent block iirc. Wiki would probably prove me wrong.

AuthiCooper1300 > LongbowMkII 12/16/2016 at 20:40

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Wiki did ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotus_900_series ).

Also according to Wikipedia there were a few Europa versions with non-Renault engines: the Type 74 and “Twin Cam” (Lotus Twin Cam, the one with the block based on the Kent) plus the Lotus 47 and 62, which could be considered (much modified) racing versions of the Europa.

The Type 47 used a Lotus Twin Cam; the Type 62 served to develop Lotus’ own 907 engine (the one in the Elite/Eclat) but actually used a Vauxhall iron block (904).

I think I now have a headache...

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > CaptDale - is secretly British 12/17/2016 at 00:15

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Like toy soldiers

sdwarf36 > CaptDale - is secretly British 12/17/2016 at 02:01

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Lotus:

Lots

Of

Trouble

Usually

Serious.

ciscokidinsf > CaptDale - is secretly British 12/17/2016 at 04:50

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There are TWO of them, white, nearly abandoned and inoperable, doing hard time in the San Francisco weather with no roof, in the parking lot of some marketing agency...they’ve been there for a decade. Now I know exactly what they are. I knew they were Lotus.

CaptDale - is secretly British > ciscokidinsf 12/17/2016 at 11:12

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Really? Thats wild.